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Nontrad websites, links, and blogs. (Part 1)

Hi all fellow nontraditional students  and the people who help them! You may be taking or teaching online classes, OR face-to-face ones.

Here are some neat sites and blogs written by nontraditional students. They are going back to school after a break.

When you have time between work and/or classes, give these sites a look.

 My Life as a Mature Age Student - Caz from Australia calls this blog "The ramblings of a wife, mother, student!!!". I like the setup of the background on this blog too. It is set up like a library, with pictures of books. She has a SH (Supportive Husband) and a TD (Teenage Daughter). Don't you love those abbreviations?

Questions and Answers for Non-Traditional Students - This is Linda Pogue's blog. She is faculty at a college, and writes about things like how to make better grades in college, advice for nontraditional students, and more. I just recently found this blog, and really like it.


Rantings of a Middle-Aged College Student - Brandywine is a Missouri student who is "a Heirloom gardener, chocoholic, bookworm. Full-time employee, full-time student. History major with a Spanish minor. I love words, I love history, and I love heirloom tomatoes, not necessarily in that order. I enjoy blogging and meeting new people through blogs (and in real life, as well)."

And I must mention one of the first Nontraditional Student subject bloggers I discovered when I started this blog. It is the Deb Peterson's About.com pages. 
Deb has many articles, much research, website links, and more at her pages. She is a fun person to talk to also. I guarantee you will like her.

There are many more good pages and blogs that help nontrads or just talk about what it is like. You can find some on the Nontrad blog. But these people will sure get your started.

Later!

-Betsyanne (former Nontrad student and Lifetime Learner.)


Some more Nontrad links for you to try: The Nontrad site and blog Join Nontrads on Facebook Nontrads on Yahoo Nontrads on Twitter
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The Typical Nontraditional Student

Steacie Science and Engineering Library at Yor...Image via Wikipedia Some thoughts for today: Qualities and Some of My Ideas about Nontraditional Students.
First of all, I realize that there is not ever a "typical" anything. Every nontraditional student is unique. But sometimes I notice some trends. These opinions I have are are taken from the nontraditional students that I have met either in class face to face, in online classes, or via comments about nontraditional issues.
Here is what I have noticed.

#1. Nontrads are positive thinkers. I believe that even if the occasional nontraditional student might say he or she does NOT believe in positive thinking, he or she still exudes a positivity that can be catching. (So watch out, people around nontrads - - you might get an infectious dose of this.) Maybe the very fact that the nontraditional student is finally THERE and back at school might be the cause of this positivity. Sometimes nontrads can THINK about going back to school for years, but not do it. Then if they do follow through finally, they are pretty proud of that.
 
#2. Nontrads have a goal. And they can be focused on it, sometimes even too much. You will see them in the library, in the computer lab, and sitting at study tables a lot. If you ask them if they want to do something un-school-related, they usually say no.
The exception to this is hanging out with other nontrads at club meetings. This they usually justify as school-related because they might hear a study tip there now and then. But, to explain this lack of fun-quotient, it must be said that nontrads do have plenty of other things to do besides attending school, like work, take care of kids, etc. which does partially explain things.

#3. Nontrads are natural sharers. They love to share their experience and stories. This can rub other students the wrong way at times, especially when they have their hand up every time an instructor asks a question. I mean, OTHER students do want to answer a question now and then, and nontrads can be rather pushy about wanting to do this too much. It is very hard for nontrads to stop this behavior, but most do learn to bite their tongues eventually.
It is important to know that wanting to share stories and experiences is usually NOT meant to be one-upmanship towards younger students, despite the popular belief that it is done to brag or get on the instructor's good side. It just feels so great to be able to finally connect an experience to new learning. It is a great feeling to do this.

#4. (Most) Nontrads do want to be accepted. Many are shy, and have self-doubt about their abilities at first when they are back in school. They sometimes conpensate for this by seeming aloof. But nothing is farther from the truth in most cases. They would welcome a word of greeting from a younger student (if they are attending face-to-face classes) or, at the very least, would love it if a story or joke would continue when they enter a room. If they could talk about it, many would say they would just like to be a normal part of the class, and not treated as a parent or another teacher. This is easier wanted than accomplished with younger students, I am sure.

I got a comment from another nontraditional student once. I had mentioned that nontraditional students want to go to school and get good grades, yes, but they also would like to make friends while they are in school. "Not me!" the nontraditional student said. "All I want is to get the grade, and get out." (I paraphrase here...)

I responded that more students had told me that they wanted to feel connected. I think that some nontraditional students get connected with age-related groups or clubs at school, and some can blend in with the younger group of students.  Sometimes it all depends on the age or make-up of the students themselves.

What is your opinion? Are there qualities YOU notice about yourself as a nontraditional student, or about other nontraditional students? What makes you unique and sets you apart from younger students?

Do you think attitudes are changing because of the big influx of nontraditional students now entering high schools, colleges, and grad schools?

Let me know.

All for now - - I am nontraditionally yours,
-Betsyanne

And here are some other postings you might like:
Finding Scholarships and Grants for School
11 More Tips for Success (for nontrads)
Don't drop out of school, older nontrad student!
Nontrads and younger friends, and
Just for nontrads: how to make friends in college



Some (more) Nontrad links: The Nontrad site and blog Join Nontrads on Facebook Nontrads on Yahoo Nontrads on Twitter
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Saving Money for Nontraditional Students

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How to save money while you are going back to school...
Truthfully, I didn't think I would find much on this subject online, but voila! I am finding a lot.
If you are in school, you probably already know a lot about saving money, just because experience is such a good teacher. But there may be some hints in the articles here that can help even more. Here are three terrific articles about saving money at school.
#1. 118 Ways to Save Money at College
This article gives beaucoup ways to save money, including on your bank, your credit cards, alcohol, food, computers, entertainment and more.
#2. Saving Money from the Campus Grotto site. This list includes taking courses at community college, then transferring your credits to a 4-year one. Note: make sure they WILL transfer first. Here is that link: Saving Money: 50 Tips for College Students.
#3. Article Cat has a good article about saving money while going back for your GED. If you are taking online classes, you can always save on gas, of course, and can sometimes get more than one thing done at home. The part about being able to babysit your kids while you are studying does not always work though. It helps if they are asleep! :-) Here is that article: Get Your GED.
More ideas:
Some money-saving ideas I have used in the past include riding the school bus, buying course books used or online, walking places, taking snacks or lunch to school, shopping at thrift stores, re-using scrap paper for notes and for printouts on my computer,  cooking casseroles and soups at home, and cutting back on movies and eating out.
What are your money-saving ideas? List them in the comments section. Thanks ahead of time!
-Betsyanne
The piggy bank art is from the great, free site Clkr.com at http://www.clkr.com
Some Nontrad links: The Nontrad site and blog Join Nontrads on Facebook Nontrads on Yahoo Nontrads on Twitter

Surviving your first semester back at school - 10 tips

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10 Tips to do well back at school.
OK - you did it. You signed up for school, and you are going back.
Whether you just signed up for one class, or are taking more, now is the time to take out some insurance on finishing with a good grade.
Here are some hints to help you succeed.
 #1. Keep a positive attitude. Visualizing success can be a great help to success. Get motivated with 10 Motivational Tips.
#2. Get organized. Keep a notebook and a planner. Try these tips on organization to help you:  Get Organized for Finals.
#3. Use your highlighter. Some classes with reading assignments do use these on tests. So, though it may go against every lecture by a librarian, you may want to take out that highlighter and use it for important points you read.
#4. Reach out. Start connecting with other students, whether you are in an online class or an in-person one. Here are some ways to do that: Get to know your college professors,  form a study group, and maybe even start a Nontraditional Student group at your school.
#5.  Take care of yourself. This means getting plenty of sleep (I know, this is hard sometimes...), pampering yourself, and being kind to yourself. Avail yourself of the often-free counseling services your school offers if you need them.
#6. Enlist your family's help. They may need to pitch in on family chores, and your regular, used-to-do duties. Your focus will be on your class or classes right now.
#7. Consider dropping a class. If you are overwhelmed right now at the beginning of the semester, it will only get worse later. Make sure to know your school's policy now on dropping and adding classes without penalty. Consult your advising office if you don't know, and mark the date, just in case.
#8. Use your school's services. Many schools have study labs complete with tutors that are totally free. See if your school offers these. Use them if you need them.
#9. Let your instructor help. If you know that you are not doing well in a class, and you can't drop the class, then definitely go and talk to your instructor. Sometimes he or she can help. In the worst-case scenario, you can sometimes work out an incomplete and finish your work within a prescribed time if you have a family emergency or illness. It doesn't hurt to find out about that.
#10. Try your best. This means going to every class (even if you are tired that day), turning in assignments on time, following directions, and listening. You may want to invest in a digital recorder for class to make sure you get every point your instructor wants you to know.
Here are some more tips:
11 more tips for success
10 Study Tips for Nontrads
I hope these tips are useful. And add some as comments. I would love that!!
Nontraditionally Yours,
-Betsyanne
And come join us other places...
The Nontrad site and blog
Join Nontrads on Facebook
Nontrads on Yahoo
Nontrads on Twitter
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Want a new career? Try doing something you love, full time or part time.






Are you in a career rut? Only you can know that.
So. You have worked in the same industry for a long time. You feel like you might be in a rut. Every day is the same. You are SO used to what you are doing.

You might have a dream that some day you might be able to do something else. But is it worth going back to school and incurring so much debt on the way?

Not everyone has the money set aside to allow them to go back to school with no student debt. But for some, it is worth trying out their dream job, even if that means going back to school to get the training for it, debt or not. But for some people, it just is not worth it. That is why going back to school can be a very personal choice.

The first thing I think people need to think about is, what do you love? If you are doing a job and get "into the zone" while you are working, and the day goes by fast, the job you are doing just may be a good fit for you.

Some other questions you can ask yourself are: Do you enjoy the people you work with? Do you feel like you are doing something worthwhile? Then maybe your job is one that you can continue with your entire life. But you don't have to give up on your dreams. Maybe each thing you dream about can be a hobby for you. You can work at your same job, and explore your other interests on the side.

Will you want to go to school to learn more about your dream? Maybe. Maybe not!

Maybe you can look things up on the internet or at the library to find out more about it in your free time first. Perhaps full-time school is not for you right now. Maybe part-time school (outside of work) just may be. There are so many options today.

Many people just accept what happens to them, and never go past that. I think I myself used to be that way. I think asking myself some questions helped me. One question I asked that you can ask yourself is this: Have you explored what you really want from life? Are you fulfilled in your job?

Do you feel like there might be something different that you would enjoy doing with your life? If you answer yes to any of these questions, the next step might be taking a free aptitude test online.
Here are just a few I have found:

FunEducation has some neat quizzes and tests that you may like. They also have an IQ test there that they say is PhD. certified. This sounds a lot like the old Tickle tests. I had fun with the Tickle tests. Their site is no longer around, I am sad to say.

But the website points to:
TestQ, which also has IQ and interest tests.

The Career Zone is an interesting test page linked to from Columbus State Community College.
Then you can go from there and decide whether or not you want to learn more about your dream job or even your dream hobby.

Do you know of some good and free sites that help people learn more about themselves and what they may love to do with their job or life? I would love it if you would list those sites after this posting.

Have you thought about exploring other options in your work life? Do you think about doing other things in your spare time? Talk about it in your comment. I look forward to reading about it.

Nontraditionally yours,
-Betsyanne

Here are some other postings you may like:

Nontraditional student information from Twitter

The Good Stuff - - the nontraditional student page at the Federal Aid Page

Going back to school - should you? 

Some Nontrad links:  
The Nontrad site and blog 
Join Nontrads on Facebook Nontrads on Yahoo 
Nontrads on Twitter 

 
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Is your school a member of TRiO?


  
TRiO - - something about three? Some kind of helping service? I saw this name at Western Kentucky University while I was there, but I didn't know what it was until today.

What is TRiO?

TRiO is a no-traditional support service for nontraditional students. It is also known as SSS/Trio. It is under the auspices of the U.S. Department of Education. It supplies help for people getting their GED and people in college.

Some of the services they provide include free help with FAFSA applications, career counseling and information, advising, and more, all for free.

Some programs TRiO is involved with include Veterans Upward Bound, Upward Bound Math-Science, The Child Care Access Means Parents in School program (CCAMPIS), Talent Search, and Educational Opportunity Centers.

Is your school a member of TRiO? You can call the your local school and find out. Some places that offer TRiO services are called Educational Opportunity Centers.

Here are some websites that tell more about the TRiO program:



Federal Trio Programs - Home Page

The TRiO Clearinghouse Page 

 Other links you may like:
The Find Scholarships and Grants blog
Textbook Options 2010 include renting, ebooks, more
A Report on NPR's recent broadcast on Talk of the Nation

Some Nontrad links: The Nontrad site and blog Join Nontrads on Facebook Nontrads on Yahoo Nontrads on Twitter


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