People are offering services to nontraditional students across the country. The first links tell about these.
The third link is from one of my favorite nontraditional student blogs.
Leave a comment about them, or suggest others I can put on the blog.
The University of Colorado at Boulder has a special Nontraditional Student Center. They sponsor lunches, speakers, and socials. What a good idea!
Find out more here:
Nontrads (from Ralphie's Guide to Student Life)
The University of Kansas found that they had 3908 identifiable nontraditional students on campus, and thought they probably had even more. They have a page for nontraditional students with answers to questions they might have. Here is that page:
SILC - Nontraditional Student Services
Zickbee is figuring out her Fall schedule and going over what the exams will be like that are coming up soon. She has some advice here for other nontraditional students, such as "Prioritize - don't panic," (I like this one), and "ask questions," which is another good one. You can find out more on her blog, Older Nontrad Student which is here: http://oldernontradstudent.blogspot.com/
You can see other blogs written by and about nontraditional students on the right side of the blog.
All for now - I am still deciding whether to go back to school for the second time. I am leaning to no, but it sure is tempting.
Nontraditionally Yours,
-Betsyanne
Some of my links!
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
Nontraditional students have two reasons to like Health Care Reform
Why I believe that Nontrads will like the new health care reform bill:
#1. They will have more affordable health care, and
#2. They will be more likely to be able to get more financial aid, because of a law bundled with the Reform Act, called the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act.
This Act will "help take the mystery out of getting a student loan", according to Andrea Hermitt, in her article, "College students have much to rejoice for in health care reform bill," published at the Walletpop site. Also, this new Act will hopefully contain costs and make loans more affordable.
Also, according to the House Committee on Education and Labor, the Act will "bolster college access" and also invests in Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions.
Streamlining applications for aid is good news, because the old (current) FAFSA form is way too bulky and long to fill out. And more access is definitely a plus.
ALSO: student loan repayment will be based on income. This sounds great. I have a student loan, and there is no leeway there at all right now. With the economy the way it is right now, (and the way it will probably stay for awhile...) this will really help new students of all ages.
Ms. Hermitt says that there may be be drawbacks to the new SAFRA system too. She believes that there may be bad customer service down the road and "monopoly-like behavior" too.
I feel very positive about this addition to the Health Care Reform Bill, now known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
I have just touched a few of the many good things in this blog posting that this Bill will bring about.
Find out more at her article here: College students have much to rejoice for in health care reform bill.
And find out more:
Learn more about the new Health Care bill and see a Timeline at the AFL-CIO site.
How Health Care Reform helps college students by Graison Hensley-Chapman at Scoop Daily.
-Betsyanne
The Garden Spot
Kentucky
Some of my links!
The Nontrad site and blog
Is your school "Non-Trad-Friendly?"
I have wondered about this a lot. Nontraditional students seem to be exploding as a group on campuses. Yet only the best of schools seem to be noticing and are "Nontrad-friendly."
1. A nontraditional student group - something already made up that nontraditional students can join as their very own group. A meeting place with a couch, chairs, tables, computers, etc. would also be nice.
2. Help with child care. If a campus or school can't or won't provide child care so parents can attend school, they should help find good child care for nontraditional students.
3. A way of helping nontraditional students get acclimated. This could be a Nontrad Welcome Class, a course including computer use and a brush-up on study skills, and an introduction to all the areas of the school.
4. A consciousness-raising campaign to welcome nontraditional students to the school. Many younger people don't really know what to think about older people going to "their" school. It would help to let them know that older people are more like them than different. Schools should emphasize what good things nontraditional student add to the mix.
5. Student housing for everyone - undergraduates, graduates, and families with children.
6. Social clubs that include nontraditional students. Social life can enhance the educational experience so much - and so can the diversity of having nontraditional students involved in every aspect of the schools they attend.
If you are a nontraditional student, know that you DO have choices, especially today. Distance learning has eliminated some barriers to classes and made more choices for students.
But nontraditional students still need to do their research and ask questions, like "do you have a nontraditional student club?" and "what special things do you do for nontraditional students?"
Things like counseling just for nontraditional students and a helping hand to get and stay acclimated can mean so much - even the difference between completing their work and dropping out.
Some good examples of schools that I feel are Nontraditional Student friendly are: The University of Wisconsin College system, and The University of Kentucky (has family housing).
Many other trade schools, community colleges, universities, and colleges are offering great programs for their nontraditional students. I want to thank them, and hope that other schools will consider going the extra mile for nontraditional students too.
-Betsyanne
Some of my links!
The Wisconsin Nontrad Page
The Kentucky Nontrad Page
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
Nontrads and Fashion
Some Nontraditional students DO care about fashion!
I know I do. Not that I buy many new things; I don't. BUT I want to know what is in style. Nontraditional students often do not have much extra money. They are busy paying for their books, lunches, supplies for school, and perhaps their kids' expenses too. But that doesn't mean they can't have fun with their clothing or change it up a bit each year. Face it. Sometimes it just gets old looking at the same old thing every day that you are wearing.
Knowing what is in style can help you blend in nicely at any school you attend. It can also boost your spirits. I have listed a few good websites to look at when you are not studying. (Yeah... like THAT is going to happen!)
And I don't think it's necessary to wear what much younger kids do; just find out the trends and make your own fashion statement!
Related posts:
Back to school as an older student - what should you wear?
Here are some sites to help too:
Elle.com - a good trendy site (from the magazine) This site has some good articles on many different subjects.
TLC Fashion Tips
The Fashion Blog Site - attn: they have the new Boyfriend Jacket here. Plus photos.
Fashion sites for men - at AskMen.com
How NOT to act old
Clothing stores rediscover Boomers (NY Times)
How to buy cool clothes (at any age)
-Betsyanne
Other Betsyanne sites and blogs:
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
Five Must-haves for the Nontraditional Student
I have been thinking about a list of must-haves today. Here are few (and please feel free to add more - we'll make a list!)
#1. A backpack or locker for your books. Do you carry books the old-fashioned way? Consider a smart backpack or case either slung over one or two arms.
#2. An organizer notebook complete with calendar. If you want to get that term paper done in a timely fashion and keep up on class deadlines, you will need this.
#3. A few new clothes for school. Who says you have to be an old dowdy fogie? Check out the stores and at least buy a couple of new things for school if you can.
#4. A good pen, pencils, and paper. Go for a pen that is easy to write with, even if it costs a bit more. And make sure to bring an extra one, too.
#5. A computer - the best you can find. Sure, schools today have computer labs, but you need a good computer at home too, or a portable laptop with case.
Got some more "must-haves"for school? Just leave them in your comment below.
-Betsyanne
Some of my links!
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
#1. A backpack or locker for your books. Do you carry books the old-fashioned way? Consider a smart backpack or case either slung over one or two arms.
#2. An organizer notebook complete with calendar. If you want to get that term paper done in a timely fashion and keep up on class deadlines, you will need this.
#3. A few new clothes for school. Who says you have to be an old dowdy fogie? Check out the stores and at least buy a couple of new things for school if you can.
#4. A good pen, pencils, and paper. Go for a pen that is easy to write with, even if it costs a bit more. And make sure to bring an extra one, too.
#5. A computer - the best you can find. Sure, schools today have computer labs, but you need a good computer at home too, or a portable laptop with case.
Got some more "must-haves"for school? Just leave them in your comment below.
-Betsyanne
Some of my links!
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
Single mothers: you CAN aim for higher goals - and reach them!
This is a guest posting by Carla Bates, Database Programmer and Adjunct Instructor.
This article tells about Carla's personal experience being a single Mom and a nontraditional student. I think you will find it very interesting - I did!
When I graduated from high school, I thought I had much better things to do than school. When I was 24 and getting ready to start a family, I started rethinking my decisions. I kept just getting dead-end jobs that paid minimum wage. I saw an advertisement for a business college and thought I would give it a shot. When I graduated, I was 25 and pregnant with my first child. Months after my graduation, I was a new mommy and I landed a “decent” job. The position I landed was at a local university with great benefits. I live in a small town and “decent” jobs come few and far between. The position was the lowest clerical position available, but what I had learned at the business college was a key factor in me getting the position.
The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
This article tells about Carla's personal experience being a single Mom and a nontraditional student. I think you will find it very interesting - I did!
At this university, after you had completed a 6 month probation period you could take classes at a 75% discount. A woman I worked with and I decided we would take a class or two for “fun”. I was hooked. Soon into my second semester I had my second child and didn’t even miss a day of class. Some people may say that is a bad thing but I don’t feel so. I had a goal I wanted to complete. I knew it would take forever but I had already decided I was going to work toward a degree.
While working on my courses at the business college, I had decided that I like computers and was pretty good with them. I enrolled in the computer science degree program at the university where I was now working. People I worked with would tell me “Why don’t you try to get a degree in something you can accomplish like history or English”. I wasn’t interested in those subjects so I did not listen to them. It just made me more determined to finish.
Soon after starting to work on my degree, my husband and I separated. We shared custody of our two daughters. I continued school and continued being promoted at work. I had to take a physics course for the degree. Several people told me to take it during the summer because “it would be easier.” I signed up for that course the semester my husband and I separated. From this time forward I always had one full-time job and multiple part-time jobs.
After the first day of class, I was totally lost so withdrew from the course. Soon afterward (July 1992), I was in a near-fatal accident. I spent the summer recuperating and re-evaluating. When the fall semester started, I signed up for classes and returned to work. I also changed my major to something that was more interesting to me. Work proved too much for me (brachial plexus nerve damage was causing problems for me at work). For at least 6 months after my accident, I was not able to use my right arm at all (and of course, I’m right handed). I left work, after 4 years of working at the university and being promoted from the lowest clerical position to one of the highest secretarial positions, on long-term disability and started attending school full-time. Other health reasons from the accident caused me problems attending school full-time but I was determined to complete a bachelor’s of science degree.
The girls’ dad was always in the picture, but while I had them I was their primary caregiver. Life was not easy but I was determined. When I had long days of school and activities with the girls, I waited until my brain was too tired to think. I didn’t start out that way, but soon learned that was the best plan.
While I attended school, I was very active with my girls. Along with shuffling them to gymnastics, softball practice, piano lessons, and guitar lessons, I was always a Girl Scout leader for one troop, and was a leader for two troops in my girls were in different levels. We sold a lot of Girl Scout cookies (one year even sold over 1,000 boxes so both girls could go to Girl Scout camp free since I didn’t have the money to pay for it). They were also involved in several other activities that required my time.
In May 1996 I graduated with my BS. I was so excited! I applied for programming positions at the same university I worked and graduated from, received interviews, but no job offers. I took a job teaching at the same business school I had attended years ago. It was bittersweet because deep down I had always wanted to teach. The down side was that the pay was less than I made before my degree as an Administrative Assistant. But I knew I had to work to support my girls. I started teaching at the business college in June 1996 and worked there until November 1996. I had finally landed a job at the university as a programmer with a big pay raise. I was so excited.
After a couple years, I thought about going back to work on a master’s degree. That particular university didn’t really offer anything I was interested in but I knew that was the only way I could afford to go to school. I finally chose an engineering management program but ended up dropping after a couple semesters due to family issues.
A few years later, the university was talking about adding a new degree in management systems. More my cup of tea! A co-worker and I decided to take classes together. When one of us was worn out and discouraged the other made them feel better. We pushed each other through every semester (including summers). About half-way through, I suggested to my co-worker, “let’s take this summer off, then hit it hard until we finish.” Which is what we did! We graduated in May 2005 with our master’s degrees. It didn’t mean more money or a promotion at work but we finished.
While working on my master’s degree, I had started teaching part-time for extra money. I loved it! I looked forward to the days when I got to teach. It was like a bonus for me. Also, while working on our master’s degree we had to make a choice. Thesis or class work. Most students, if they are going to continue toward their doctorate choose thesis. We chose class work since we knew we were not going to take more classes.
After a couple years, many changes in the department I worked, my dad pushing me, and most of all, my love for teaching, I started looking for a doctoral program. I knew I should not get all three degrees at one school so that was going to be a problem. Several, totally on-line school degrees would not get me where I wanted to be, to teach at “my” university full-time. A co-worker, the one I finished the master’s degree with, knew of my goals and suggested a program that I like that was in a related university (still received the 75% discount) and a hour and a half away. I could take part of the courses on-line. After much thought and consideration, I applied.
I received a letter stating that they wanted to have a phone interview before accepting me into the program. I was excited and scared to death at the same time but set up the interview. A month later I received a letter of acceptance!
The progress toward my doctorate started in January 2007. I started with one course and quickly changed to two courses a semester. I usually took one on-line and one face to face which required a two hour drive (one way) once a week. The first semester of driving, I didn’t take into account the 4 hour drive time and it was really tough on me. I have since been able to adjust my schedule.
I have been fortunate in that I am able to take off work and make up my time while working on my degree. But I do work hard. I work on a computer all day at work then come home to work on homework. In the same time period, I have worked a full-time job, 2-4 part-time jobs, and enrolled in 3-6 credit hours a semester.
My first advisor was not very supportive, and every time I met with him he would tell me that I would never finish my degree if I didn’t quit my job, move to the town I was attending school, and attend full-time. I do have a better advisor now which is making me feel better. Well, I haven’t completed yet, but am still making progress even with several devastating events in my life. I am planning to complete my course work in December 2011 and then another year on my dissertation.
I’m still not completely convinced I will get a full-time teaching position at “my” university, but a girl can always hope, right? I wouldn’t have thought I would ever get to where am I am now.
The most important reason for this story is to tell you single mothers that you can aim for higher goals…..and reach them! Good luck!
- Carla Bates
Thank you so much for this excellent story about what it is like out there for single mothers who want to go back to school and succeed. I think this article will inspire other people go for their dreams.
Would you like to write Carla and tell her what a great job she did on this article? Just contact her via her work web page: http://web.mst.edu/~carla
-Betsyanne
Some of my links!The Nontrad site and blog
The Betsyanne page and blog
My Squidoo Pages and referral
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