Showing posts with label going back to school after a break. Show all posts
Showing posts with label going back to school after a break. Show all posts

The Value of a Dream

Just what is the value of a dream? 

By dream, I mean something you have always wanted to do or learn about in your life.

For instance, are you stuck in an office job, and always wanted to work outside?

Do you dream of being able to help people, be a medical doctor, a teacher, a writer or artist?

You may have always wondered if you could actually do what you have always dreamed of.

So what is holding you back? Maybe it's so-called reality, the reality of making a living, of having responsibilities, a family, a house, a mortgage, kids.

This man does not see a way out.
What is the guarantee that going back to school is even going to net you a job in today's job market after you are done with your schooling?

The answer is, there IS no guarantee. But that doesn't mean you need to give up.

There are some things you can do that can make your choice of whether you can go back to school a wiser one. One thing you can think about is to maybe go to trade school, (which can be less expensive) and another to really research jobs in your area.

Ask yourself, are there openings for that dream job?

Another idea: have you applied for scholarships or grants? Many of these you don't have to pay back.

Ack! I don't have my assignment done!
So think about it. Thinking about it doesn't cost anything. Research and applying for scholarships or grants just takes time.

Going to the Advising Office of a school only takes time too. You never know... there could be money just waiting for you to use.



Well, that's it for today. I want to wish you the very best of luck in your search for fulfillment in your job or career.

Nontraditionally Yours,










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Nontraditional Students - are you trying to decide what to take?

Decisions, decisions. That is what school is all about.

But not everyone has decided for sure what they really want when they go to school. I feel this is OK, and normal. "Regular", traditional students often have this problem. And also, nontraditional students sometimes have some trouble choosing a major or zeroing in on what interests them most too.

For some people (and I am including myself here), the choice of a major is a major TRAUMA. The reasons are many. Here are just a few:

1. The student may not think their first choice is interesting anymore. Facing untold years doing something they think may be frustrating, impossible, limiting or (shudder) even boring can give people pause.

2. The student might be interested in many different subjects, or at least two. It's hard to pick a subject or interest if you have not done a job in that field yet. You have to train first, and then experience the field.

3. The student may not really want to graduate. I met some people like this the first time I was in college. Sometimes it's just so much fun BEING in school, it's hard to really WANT to leave. The student may be used to school, and having never experienced having a job (or worse: HAVING experienced one or more bad jobs) staying in school can be the "choice" when actually it is a holding pattern because it's easier to just skate at school and not take the Job Plunge.

4. Money is often a factor - - the student has X many hours in a certain field that they THOUGHT they would want to study, but then they find out that something else interests them more. Some students can just add on to their debt, others (younger ones) can plead with parents to stay in school and finish in the chosen field or go on to graduate school. Others simply do not have this choice, especially nontraditional students, who may have obligations or family, plus jobs.

5. The student can second-guess him or herself and overthink. He or she can't really know how the job market will be, and can wonder if they are making a mistake, when actually they aren't. It is hard to know for sure how things will turn out.

So... how can students get around this problem of not knowing what they really want to do?

I don't think this problem can be entirely eliminated, but there are some things students can do to get a lead on what they like sooner. They can do Job Shadowing, which is experiencing the job through somebody actually IN that job, for one thing. They can also take some Aptitude Tests, which the school may offer. Also, they could sign up for apprenticeships or internships in the field they want to work in.

They can also use the "Pro vs. Con" sheet method, and put all the good things on one side they can think of, and also put the bad things on the other side and compare sides.

Another thing that some students do is take an entry course in every field they are interested in. Of course, this all depends on whether they have the time to do that, or can afford it. The good side of this is that sometimes a student can get so excited, and find out so much in this first entry course, that they can switch their major or field early, which doesn't really take so much longer than their first choice, if they are lucky.

Nontraditional students, how did you deal with this problem of not knowing what subject(s) to take? I know I selected two different subjects and did a traditional major and minor the first time in college. Trade School people could take two different subjects too possibly. And GED students getting ready for more classes could try job shadowing. 

Leave a comment - I want to hear from you!






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Answers to the "Why Go Back" Poll

Welcome, readers, to the Nontraditional Student blog. I just copied this result page (below) from the Bravenet Poll site.

I've had 13 people answer the "Why Go Back" poll. I must say I am surprised so far. Here are the answers:


The winners so far are I want to achieve my dreams and I have many different reasons for going back to school. I guess I thought more people would say they were going back for money or to completely change their lives. Oh well! I will run this poll again later on, maybe with more answers. And why are you going back to school - or are you thinking about it? Did you already go? You can also take the poll.




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Here are a few ways to be nice to a nontraditional student today.

This posting is for families, friends, fellow students, and others who know a nontraditional student.

It takes a lot for many nontraditional students to go back to school. And they deserve some kudos for that! Here are some things you can do for a nontraditional student.

#1. Acknowledge them! For younger students and maybe some family members, this just means talking to them. For a fellow student, it may mean telling them about a club or study group they may want to join.

#2. Help them! Tell them about your advisor (if you like them!), and/or just say hi to them once in awhile in the school hallways. Families, pitch in on chores around the house once in awhile. Kids, give that nontraditional student mom or dad a hug too.

#3. Honor them (this one is for families). Tell your nontraditional student how proud you are of them.

#4.  Help them take a break. Are you a friend of a nontraditional student? Maybe you can do some shopping for them or babysit once in awhile. Maybe you can talk them into taking a vacation or a short break from their studies.

Nontraditional students are students going back to school after a break. Are you one?

I and of course my readers, would love to hear your story. Tell it in a comment, or send me your story and I will try to feature it here on the Nontrad blog.

Oh - and Nontrads, and here are the other Nontraditional student sites you can join:

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The Road Less Taken















 The Road Not Taken
 I really like this poem "The Road Not Taken" by Robert Frost.

Here is the whole thing (from Wikipedia)

The Road Not Taken
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
 
I didn't know about student loans when I was a student. I simply didn't go to see my advisor, because I thought I knew it all about school and the classes I wanted to take. Plus, I took some classes just because I wanted to.

Then I needed to graduate, and I had to see what I could do about that. So I graduated with a degree in English, and a minor in Art. This was not exactly what I wanted... I wanted to teach. But a teaching certificate was out of the question, because it was time to find a full-time job. Which I did.

Printing and newspaper work was really interesting, but I always wondered what teaching would have been like. So... MUCH later on, I actually took those teaching classes and tried it out.
I didn't want to be even older and say to myself, "why didn't I try that while I could?"

So I DID try it. It was not like I thought it would be, but I am so glad I did it. I learned so much, about teaching and the state of teaching today, AND about myself. I did it! And that felt so good.

Do you have a story like that? Have you stepped up and tried something out that used to only be a dream? Or maybe you have been on another road, and want to try The Road Not Taken, and now is the time you can finally do it, or have learned enough to help yourself actually DO it.

If you are trying something out and you have had a break from school, you CAN go back. Just listen to other people who have done it, and get some inspiration from that. You can also start a group at school and make friends there. Or join a Nontrad group. There are several listed at the end of this blog posting.

As Dr. Wayne Dyer says, "The Sky's The Limit." What's your story? Are you back in school, helping those who are, or thinking about going back?

Leave a comment!

Later,
-Betsyanne

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This beautiful photo is from Mimiliz at Morguefile: http://www.morguefile.com/creative/mimiliz. It does not look like this where I live... but some of the leaves are gently turning now, after a long Indian Summer.
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Single mothers: you CAN aim for higher goals - and reach them!

This is a guest posting by Carla Bates, Database Programmer and Adjunct Instructor.
This article tells about Carla's personal experience being a single Mom and a nontraditional student. I think you will find it very interesting - I did!






When I graduated from high school, I thought I had much better things to do than school. When I was 24 and getting ready to start a family, I started rethinking my decisions. I kept just getting dead-end jobs that paid minimum wage. I saw an advertisement for a business college and thought I would give it a shot. When I graduated, I was 25 and pregnant with my first child. Months after my graduation, I was a new mommy and I landed a “decent” job. The position I landed was at a local university with great benefits. I live in a small town and “decent” jobs come few and far between. The position was the lowest clerical position available, but what I had learned at the business college was a key factor in me getting the position.

At this university, after you had completed a 6 month probation period you could take classes at a 75% discount. A woman I worked with and I decided we would take a class or two for “fun”. I was hooked. Soon into my second semester I had my second child and didn’t even miss a day of class. Some people may say that is a bad thing but I don’t feel so. I had a goal I wanted to complete. I knew it would take forever but I had already decided I was going to work toward a degree.

While working on my courses at the business college, I had decided that I like computers and was pretty good with them. I enrolled in the computer science degree program at the university where I was now working. People I worked with would tell me “Why don’t you try to get a degree in something you can accomplish like history or English”. I wasn’t interested in those subjects so I did not listen to them. It just made me more determined to finish.

Soon after starting to work on my degree, my husband and I separated. We shared custody of our two daughters. I continued school and continued being promoted at work. I had to take a physics course for the degree. Several people told me to take it during the summer because “it would be easier.” I signed up for that course the semester my husband and I separated. From this time forward I always had one full-time job and multiple part-time jobs.

After the first day of class, I was totally lost so withdrew from the course. Soon afterward (July 1992), I was in a near-fatal accident. I spent the summer recuperating and re-evaluating. When the fall semester started, I signed up for classes and returned to work. I also changed my major to something that was more interesting to me. Work proved too much for me (brachial plexus nerve damage was causing problems for me at work). For at least 6 months after my accident, I was not able to use my right arm at all (and of course, I’m right handed). I left work, after 4 years of working at the university and being promoted from the lowest clerical position to one of the highest secretarial positions, on long-term disability and started attending school full-time. Other health reasons from the accident caused me problems attending school full-time but I was determined to complete a bachelor’s of science degree.

The girls’ dad was always in the picture, but while I had them I was their primary caregiver. Life was not easy but I was determined. When I had long days of school and activities with the girls, I waited until my brain was too tired to think. I didn’t start out that way, but soon learned that was the best plan.

While I attended school, I was very active with my girls. Along with shuffling them to gymnastics, softball practice, piano lessons, and guitar lessons, I was always a Girl Scout leader for one troop, and was a leader for two troops in my girls were in different levels. We sold a lot of Girl Scout cookies (one year even sold over 1,000 boxes so both girls could go to Girl Scout camp free since I didn’t have the money to pay for it). They were also involved in several other activities that required my time.

In May 1996 I graduated with my BS. I was so excited! I applied for programming positions at the same university I worked and graduated from, received interviews, but no job offers. I took a job teaching at the same business school I had attended years ago. It was bittersweet because deep down I had always wanted to teach. The down side was that the pay was less than I made before my degree as an Administrative Assistant. But I knew I had to work to support my girls. I started teaching at the business college in June 1996 and worked there until November 1996. I had finally landed a job at the university as a programmer with a big pay raise. I was so excited.

After a couple years, I thought about going back to work on a master’s degree. That particular university didn’t really offer anything I was interested in but I knew that was the only way I could afford to go to school. I finally chose an engineering management program but ended up dropping after a couple semesters due to family issues.

A few years later, the university was talking about adding a new degree in management systems. More my cup of tea! A co-worker and I decided to take classes together. When one of us was worn out and discouraged the other made them feel better. We pushed each other through every semester (including summers). About half-way through, I suggested to my co-worker, “let’s take this summer off, then hit it hard until we finish.” Which is what we did! We graduated in May 2005 with our master’s degrees. It didn’t mean more money or a promotion at work but we finished.

While working on my master’s degree, I had started teaching part-time for extra money. I loved it! I looked forward to the days when I got to teach. It was like a bonus for me. Also, while working on our master’s degree we had to make a choice. Thesis or class work. Most students, if they are going to continue toward their doctorate choose thesis. We chose class work since we knew we were not going to take more classes.

After a couple years, many changes in the department I worked, my dad pushing me, and most of all, my love for teaching, I started looking for a doctoral program. I knew I should not get all three degrees at one school so that was going to be a problem. Several, totally on-line school degrees would not get me where I wanted to be, to teach at “my” university full-time. A co-worker, the one I finished the master’s degree with, knew of my goals and suggested a program that I like that was in a related university (still received the 75% discount) and a hour and a half away. I could take part of the courses on-line. After much thought and consideration, I applied.

I received a letter stating that they wanted to have a phone interview before accepting me into the program. I was excited and scared to death at the same time but set up the interview. A month later I received a letter of acceptance!

The progress toward my doctorate started in January 2007. I started with one course and quickly changed to two courses a semester. I usually took one on-line and one face to face which required a two hour drive (one way) once a week. The first semester of driving, I didn’t take into account the 4 hour drive time and it was really tough on me. I have since been able to adjust my schedule.

I have been fortunate in that I am able to take off work and make up my time while working on my degree. But I do work hard. I work on a computer all day at work then come home to work on homework. In the same time period, I have worked a full-time job, 2-4 part-time jobs, and enrolled in 3-6 credit hours a semester.

My first advisor was not very supportive, and every time I met with him he would tell me that I would never finish my degree if I didn’t quit my job, move to the town I was attending school, and attend full-time. I do have a better advisor now which is making me feel better. Well, I haven’t completed yet, but am still making progress even with several devastating events in my life. I am planning to complete my course work in December 2011 and then another year on my dissertation.

I’m still not completely convinced I will get a full-time teaching position at “my” university, but a girl can always hope, right? I wouldn’t have thought I would ever get to where am I am now.

The most important reason for this story is to tell you single mothers that you can aim for higher goals…..and reach them! Good luck!

- Carla Bates
Thank you so much for this excellent story about what it is like out there for single mothers who want to go back to school and succeed. I think this article will inspire other people go for their dreams.

Would you like to write Carla and tell her what a great job she did on this article? Just contact her via her work web page: http://web.mst.edu/~carla
-Betsyanne
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